Google PR - Is it dead?

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December 7, 2017, 9:27 am

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Google PR - Is it dead?

Google PR is still seen sometimes on online forums and whatnot. In that case, I'm wondering if it still means anything. I mean, from what I can remember, it seems to be as dead as the dinosaurs. In fact, now it's been mostly unofficially replaced by stuff like DA, PA, Trust Rank, Citation Rank, Moz Rank and maybe more metrics.

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TommyCarey

TommyCarey

PR has been dead for a while now and should be ignored at all times. Sure, a high PR website or blog will likely be an authority, but it's not an accurate measurement now that Google discontinued it.

I don't understand why service providers still have "High PR Backlinks" in their titles and even in their descriptions, because it doesn't mean anything now that Google doesn't use PR as a metric for rankings.

PR was discontinued because it can be gamed fairly easily. Google picked up on this and decided to cut it out because a lot of big websites were getting high PR solely based on guest posting, buying links, press releases, etc. I remember when targeting high PR links was a thing we all targeted, and it was like getting a diamond link aimed at your website and watching your rankings sky rocket over the next week or two

But that doesn't happen anymore

DA, PA, Trust Rank, Citation Rank, Moz Rank, etc. are definitely the better metrics to look over when you're wanting to build backlinks. Remember, a good backlink is harder to get now, so you'll have to do a bit of work in order to obtain them

Google knows this, and they have their algorithm set up so they can see who is actually putting in the work to make their website more well known and filtering out the people who just want to get rich quick haha

7 years ago

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Owanceaser

Owanceaser

Yes PR is dead. If you seen in forum means it is the old posts or discussion so you don't get confused.

Nowadays DA,PA,TF,CF etc..metrics are rolling in this field.

7 years ago

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kgord

kgord

Well, I guess Google evolves and changes with the times as do many other things so it is not a shock that it has gone or transformed. It is just one of the things that we notice over time when we look at Google. It could be something really different.

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Judas2018

Judas2018

Google has expanded into so many other products since the old days that I think they've moved focus from page rank and SEO to more digital interaction between their users. Which actually in itself can improve and boost your website or blogs notoriety a lot as well.

7 years ago

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DarthHazard

DarthHazard

Yeah, I agree. I don't think they wanted to put time or effort into Google PR since there were just so many different things that they could focus on and improve such as SEO. SEO is just so much more important nowadays as well.

7 years ago

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Everett

Everett

I would happen to also agree in regards to page rank. I never really see anyone mentioning their page rank unless it is on a SEO service. Does anyone else ever see it anywhere else other than SEO services? I do not even think page rank matters anyways because you can be page rank 9 but still have a pretty dead website. It doesn't really make sense sometimes. I do also believe that Google is putting their energy into other products as well.

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itommy

itommy

Some people say it still alive but it is dead and you don't need to care about it any more.
Let focus on other SEO factors as backlinks, content to make your site better on search engine results.

7 years ago

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overcast

overcast

Google PR is dead for over 5 years. And people are now going after fake ranking like Alexa, Domain authority etc. None of those are real or have any strong indexing behind them. But people want to believe in something for the sake of it. And they are making use of those ranking and the numbers. So it's obvious that they may choose to make use of that ranking. I think google must have gone through manual and automation for the search quality.

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vinaya

vinaya

That's true, the alexa ranks can be faked. You can use traffic from traffic exchange to improve alexa ranking. Even domain authority can be faked. Domain authority is based on backlinks and you can use bots to generate backlinks. I don't believe in these metrics. Instead, I analyze how visitors are interacting with my webpages.

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Judas2018

Judas2018

Very true. Boosting your traffic through various sources will improve your overall website ranking. Basically - your traffic has spiked - which indicates to google that your site is popular and useful within its niche. Thus google will bounce you higher and higher up the ladder as your traffic increases.

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overcast

overcast

Yes. I am surprised that people believe alexa traffic to be real. I mean alexa has no analytics data of your website. But it adds some fake information about it on their ranking page. And that's something really shady. I also see domain authority is fake because backlink based spam is on rise that way.

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vinaya

vinaya

If you want to flip your site metrics like alexa rank and domain authority can actually help you. If your alexa rank and domain authority both are high, you are likely to make more from your site. If you don't intend to sell your site, these metrics do not matter at all.

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overcast

overcast

Yes. I have no plans on selling the site. And the thing is considering I know how fake these stats can be. I personally won't buy the website based on those stats at all. That's another reason a lot of things have gone wrong while selling website in my view. I guess we have to find out with experimentation.

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itommy

itommy

I agree with overcast and Alexa is not exact, if someone want to see traffic stats of a website, they should go with google analytics.
It is free and effective!

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augusta

augusta

Everything has it begin and end, some things are either modified, upgraded or outrightly dumped and that is what has happened to Google Pr It has totally been dumped for ranking and SEO activities.So the focus has shifted and Google died a natural death.

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Soulwatcher

Soulwatcher

Page rank is dead, Google now server relevant and on topic pages to its visitors. The only days of SEO are long gone and you're going to have to do a ton of work. Or spend a lot of money if you're going to have any hope of making it on the front page of Google. And since I am so poor I have to do a ton of work and my website is a hobby and not a business so even if I had the money for SEO I wouldn't pay for it.

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Everett

Everett

I am poor too, so I feel ya there. However, if you are constantly updating your website and getting a lot of traffic to it then I believe that SEO will work for itself. What I see is that often at times people will link to your site if they love it. Think about all the top 100 websites on Alexa (by Amazon, of course), they have many of their users linking to the website, so this is basically like free backlinks. If you can get this accomplished then you are in for a really good ranking!

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Judas2018

Judas2018

The front page of google shouldn't be your or anyone's only goal though. Would it be an awesome accomplishment? Would it greatly boost your business and traffic? Sure. But you can always mine traffic from many different sources. Many people are succeeding with traffic they've built and mined from various non-search engine sources. Social media being one of them.

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Swinie

Swinie

I have not paid attention to Page Rank for many years, I thought it was artificial value 6-7 years ago

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overcast

overcast

Yes around 2012. That seems to be pulled off. Now google maintains the ranking and the search volume management lot differently. Now they don't give ranks to domains. They give ranks to the content. So that seems to be the case here too. It's good though that sites are weighted properly.

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ballyhara

ballyhara

Google PR is dead since 2016, so is not available anymore, but it takes time to eliminate it from all the hundreds of servers and browsers, that used it.
Apparently, Google still use its Tool bar internally, but all external use should be shot down by now.
The good part is that they offered support while getting rid of it, and people didn't have to do a big complain about it, so that's why it was a very good way to help the users.

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centurion

centurion

PR is a very much important matter for white hat SEO. Top page rank will give you traffic for the life time. Top page rank comes by only white hat SEO based work and you will get the page rank within 90 days after starting the work. Keyword based page rank will generate huge and huge traffic for your website for the life time.

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Centurion

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Corzhens

Corzhens

I have come across several discussions about the Page Rank that it is not being used anymore by Google. Someone had even made a post in confirming that news. Maybe it is a way to let the people know that PR is not important anymore. But we have to be aware that Google is secretive not only with its algorithm but also with some of its policies that maybe tomorrow it will again be using the PR for its purpose.

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